Joe interviews Roscoe Lilly, the Lead Pastor of Starpoint Church in Clifton Park, New York. They have known each other since 2000. 17 years ago Roscoe moved up to Clifton Park, NY to start Starpoint church. He has been an instrumental influence in Joe's journey to start and establish Riverbend Community Chutch. In this episode, you will hear what it's like to start a worship service as a church only to have no one show up for 4 weeks in a row and to continue on, COVID-19 learnings, and the importance of creating systems.